Update (II): And Freedom of Expression is on the retreat on the Federal
level, too. They
have arrested Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, allegedly the creator of "The Innocence of Muslims," for potential violation of probation
conditions by allegedly using a computer.
This is not to say Nakoula is right to have violated his probation, but again,
who are we kidding? When the DOJ decided
to start investigating him, did they have the slightest evidence of criminal
conduct? Unlikely. Nor does anyone seriously believe that this
arrest is really about some violation.
No, it is because of the content of his speech, and it is un-American.
This picture on the right means Obama needs to be thrown out on his ass. It should not happen in America.
Pardon my language, but sometimes coarseness is justified. We now resume the original post, as is.
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I have been covering, mostly through the lens of Mona Eltahwy’s idiocy (see here and here) the free speech confrontation whipping up in New York’s subway system. As noted previously, Pamela Geller and the American Freedom Defense Initiative won a court ruling stating that they had the right to place the poster on the right in New York's subway system.
As I have noted, nothing in that language says “all muslims are savages” or “jihadists.” What it really seems to say is that one should support Israel against their enemies, and that those enemies are savages and jihadists, a reasonable (albeit simplistic) interpretation of the situation and I don’t see how this says anything about any Americans.
So after seeing this organized
campaign of violence, the New York Metro Transity Authority voted to...
surrender. Via the New York Times:
M.T.A. Amends Rules After
Pro-Israel Ads Draw Controversy
By MATT FLEGENHEIMER
The Metropolitan
Transportation Authority approved new guidelines for advertisements on
Thursday, prohibiting those that it “reasonably foresees would imminently
incite or provoke violence or other immediate breach of the peace.”
The 8-to-0 vote by the
authority’s board came three days after pro-Israel ads characterizing Islamist
opponents of the Jewish state as being “savage” began appearing in subway
stations, setting off vandalism, denunciations of the authority and calls for
the ads’ removal.
The authority had
initially rejected the ads, citing their “demeaning” language. The group
responsible for the ads, the American Freedom Defense Initiative, sued, and in
July won a federal court ruling on First Amendment grounds.
“We’ve gotten to a
point where we needed to take action today,” Joseph J. Lhota, the authority’s
chairman, said at a news conference on Thursday.
The authority said
it believed the new guidelines adhered to the court’s ruling and would
withstand any potential First Amendment challenge. Under the new policy, the
authority will continue to allow so-called viewpoint ads, but each will be
required to include a disclaimer noting that the ad does not imply the
authority’s endorsement of its views.
This article hasn’t said that the
pro-Israel ads will be taken down, but you know it is almost certainly the next
shoe to drop. Pamela Geller spoke
against this as, unsurprisingly, occupy types tried to shout her down:
“Have the courage of
your convictions,” she said, “even if the judge imposed it.”
The problem is they probably only have the courage of their non-court-imposed convictions. Of course you suspect that this
was just for show. One suspects that they wanted to come
up with any excuse they could to justify the suppression and Ms. Eltahwy and
her fellow vandals provided it. “Ah gee,
too bad, we are now going to have to suppress this message we disagree with and never wanted to air in the first place.” It’s lovely that the city where the United
Nations resides will suppress ideas it disagrees with, teaching all of those
countries pushing for the criminalization of blasphemy that Americans are not
as devoted to free speech as we say we are.
The problem, of course, is that
the rule as represented is not constitutional.
Regular readers know that I am somewhat a subject-matter
expert of the line between free speech and incitement. I was before my
run-in with convicted terrorist Brett Kimberlin and have only sharpened my
knowledge since then. But it was
ironically in a post
criticizing Obama where I wrote out the whole analysis, when dealing
whether the President’s desecration of our flag was protected speech (it was),
so let me quote myself at length:
But what if,
pray tell, someone was to get so offended that they were to get violent about
it? Well, the Supreme Court has
something to say about that. In Texas
v. Johnson, they confronted whether one had a right to burn the
American flag and everyone by now knows they held one did have this right.
Now of course
when we talk about the fear of violence in relation to speech, there is unsaid
an important divide between violence being advocated by speech, and violence by
those who disagree with your speech. As
regular readers know, Brett Kimberlin has accused me of the former, arguing
that merely by pointing out that he has engaged in reprehensible
conduct—pointing out that he is the Speedway Bomber, pointing out that he has
attempted to frame me for a crime, pointing out that he has abused our court
system in an effort to suppress freedom of speech—while not only advocating
against private violence but even taking active steps to make such violence
less likely to occur, that nonetheless I have whipped up a mob against him. The courts first failed to,
and then finally did,
apply the
correct legal standard enunciated in Brandenburg v.
Ohio:
the
constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State
to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except
where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless
action and is likely to incite or produce such action.
And that
plainly doesn’t apply here, because the display of this "Obama flag"
cannot be read as advocating violence just as I never did. No, the fear of violence is that someone
disagreeing with the speaker would be so offended by this image that they might
be engaged in violence.
And that is
where the opinion in Texas v. Johnson
comes in:
Texas claims
that its interest in preventing breaches of the peace justifies Johnson’s
conviction for flag desecration. However, no disturbance of the peace actually
occurred or threatened to occur because of Johnson’s burning of the flag.
Although the State stresses the disruptive behavior of the protestors during
their march toward City Hall, Brief for Petitioner 34-36, it admits that “no
actual breach of the peace occurred at the time of the flagburning or in
response to the flagburning.” Id., at 34. The State’s emphasis on the
protestors’ disorderly actions prior to arriving at City Hall is not only
somewhat surprising given that no charges were brought on the basis of this
conduct, but it also fails to show that a disturbance of the peace was a likely
reaction to Johnson’s conduct. The only evidence offered by the State at
trial to show the reaction to Johnson’s actions was the testimony of several
persons who had been seriously offended by the flag burning. Id., at
6-7.
The State’s
position, therefore, amounts to a claim that an audience that takes serious
offense at particular expression is necessarily likely to disturb the peace and
that the expression may be prohibited on this basis. Our precedents do not
countenance such a presumption. On the contrary, they recognize that a
principal “function of free speech under our system of government is to invite
dispute. It may indeed best serve its high purpose when it induces a condition
of unrest, creates dissatisfaction with conditions as they are, or even stirs
people to anger.” Terminiello v. Chicago,
337 U. S. 1, 4 (1949). See also Coxv.Louisiana,
379 U. S. 536, 551 (1965); Tinker v. Des
Moines Independent Community School Dist. 393 U. S., at 508-509;
Coates v.Cincinnati,
402 U. S. 611, 615 (1971); Hustler
Magazine, Inc. v.Falwell, 485 U. S. 46, 55-56 (1988).
It would be odd indeed to concludeboththat “if it is the speaker’s
opinion that gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it
constitutional protection,” FCCv. Pacifica
Foundation, 438 U. S. 726, 745 (1978) (opinion of STEVENS, J.), and
that the government may ban the expression of certain disagreeable ideas on the
unsupported presumption that their very disagreeableness will provoke violence.
The court goes
on to say that suppression of speech to prevent breaches of the peace must meet
the Brandenburg standard, which of course is never met without the key
ingredient of advocating lawlessness.
Let’s remember the key language
from the article above:
The Metropolitan
Transportation Authority approved new guidelines for advertisements on
Thursday, prohibiting those that it “reasonably foresees would imminently
incite or provoke violence or other immediate breach of the peace.”
That is not even close to the
standard required in Brandenburg. Indeed, it is hard to imagine anything
written down having this effect.
But of course even celebrities
are clueless on this point. You might
have seen Aasif Mandvi coming to Ms. Eltahwy’s side in my first post on her. Well, he has responded. First he seemed to think her conduct was
protected by the First Amendment:
@tsrblke @aaronworthing i do. however Vandalism can be an act of protest. can it not?
— aasif mandvi (@aasif) September 27, 2012
Then he asked me when did I stop
beating my dog, more or less:
@aaronworthing @monaeltahawy so ur in favor of posting ads for the purpose of inciting violence towards a group of people?
— aasif mandvi (@aasif) September 27, 2012
Oh noes! I am being attacked by the pizza guy in Spiderman 2!
And I am just teasing,
there. In fact, I enjoy his work, but
that doesn’t mean he knows anything about anything else. Indeed, this is not the first time that a Daily Show guy has failed to understand the meaning of Freedom of Expression. Not the first by a long shot. Mind-blowingly clueless.
In this next one, I presume he
had by typo written “rationale” when he meant “rational.” I say that to clarify, not to criticize. Far be it for a dyslexic like me to have a
problem with a typo here and there:
@aaronworthing @monaeltahawy if the ad called Jews or Blacks or Gays "Savages" would u still be as rationale about it?
— aasif mandvi (@aasif) September 27, 2012
For his claim that it was
incitement:
Of course I oppose actual incitement. But that poster is not incitement. @aasif @monaeltahawy @aasif (corrected)
— Aaron Worthing (@AaronWorthing) September 27, 2012
He replied:
@aaronworthing @monaeltahawy haha... that like saying, i oppose racism, but me calling you the N word is not racist! nice one!
— aasif mandvi (@aasif) September 27, 2012
Now besides giving him a
mini-lecture on Brandenburg, I also
made this point:
Is burning a flag incitement? Is the Piss Christ incitement? Incitement has a specific legal meaning and this isn't it. @aasif @monaeltahawy
— Aaron Worthing (@AaronWorthing) September 27, 2012
And I had two responses to his “what
if it were about Jews, black people or gay people?” (paraphrasing) comment:
Even if it insulted a group I belonged to I would say it is their right. @aasif @monaeltahawy
— Aaron Worthing (@AaronWorthing) September 27, 2012
I would speak out against it, but i would not commit an unlawful act. @aasif @monaeltahawy
— Aaron Worthing (@AaronWorthing) September 27, 2012
And he responded:
@aaronworthing @monaeltahawy i dont say its not their right, it is, but i also understand why someone would want to vandalize it.
— aasif mandvi (@aasif) September 27, 2012
Hey, if a vet sees a flag being
burned and decides to pummel the guy burning it, I would understand it, too. But what
I wouldn’t do is condone it, and I wouldn’t lament the vet being arrested,
except maybe lamenting that he or she didn’t have better self-control.
And I also turned it around:
But are you claiming that the poster says all Muslims are savages? And with what words does it say it? @aasif @monaeltahawy
— Aaron Worthing (@AaronWorthing) September 27, 2012
Oddly, he never answered.
Also if someone is accusing you of being savage, as Ms. Eltahawy plainly interpreted these posters (although that is a dubious interpretation), is the best way to rebut it by breaking the law? Isn't the best rebuttal to peacefully take it, maybe sigh a little, and maybe quietly object? I know, logic is hard.
As for the New York Metro Transit
Authority, if you review the decision that
allowed these posters to come up, you will see that the court only enjoined the
no disparagement rule that previously applied. He didn't order them the posters to come up. He just ordered the MTA to stop applying rules that kept them down. So technically the MTA can probably apply these new rules forthwith and
maybe even start taking down the poster.
But Geller and her allies in the American
Freedom Defense Initiative have an option, too: they can seek emergency relief
in the same court that already ruled in their favor. They are probably already writing the motion
now and are just waiting for the next shoe to drop...
Update: Oh, this is too precious.
She has a deep thought about this action by the MTA. It’s not suppression
of speech, because it is suppression of advertising!
RT @fourcm: @seanlamontlove @monaeltahawy advertising is NOT free speech, its paid speech, further separating the haves from the have nots
— Mona Eltahawy (@monaeltahawy) September 28, 2012
Do you think maybe I had a snarky
reply?
Of course paid speech is awful. Shouldn't exist. Btw, how much do you earn per column? @monaeltahawy @fourcm @seanlamontlove
— Aaron Worthing (@AaronWorthing) September 28, 2012
Sheesh, her lack of
self-awareness on the issue of Freedom of Expression is reaching Daily Show
proportions.
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Disclaimer:
I have accused some people,
particularly Brett Kimberlin, of
reprehensible conduct. In some cases, the conduct is even
criminal. In all cases, the only justice I want is through the
appropriate legal process—such as the criminal justice system. I do not want to see vigilante violence
against any person or any threat of such violence. This kind of conduct is not only morally
wrong, but it is counter-productive.
In the particular case of Brett
Kimberlin, I do not want you to even contact him. Do not call him. Do not write him a letter. Do not write him an email. Do not text-message him. Do not engage in any kind of directed
communication. I say this in part
because under Maryland law, that can quickly become harassment and I don’t want
that to happen to him.
And for that matter, don’t go on
his property. Don’t sneak around and try
to photograph him. Frankly try not to
even be within his field of vision. Your
behavior could quickly cross the line into harassment in that way too (not to
mention trespass and other concerns).
And do not contact his
organizations, either. And most of all, leave his family alone.
The only exception to all that is
that if you are reporting on this, there is of course nothing wrong with
contacting him for things like his official response to any stories you might report. And even then if he tells you to stop
contacting him, obey that request. That
this is a key element in making out a harassment claim under Maryland law—that
a person asks you to stop and you refuse.
And let me say something
else. In my heart of hearts, I don’t
believe that any person supporting me has done any of the above. But if any of you have, stop it, and if you
haven’t don’t start.
I have to disagree with you on the arrest of Nakoula. While there are some questions about it, there are valid explanations and precedence. The questions will not be able to be answered until more information is avaialble unfortunately. See Ken at Popehat for a good review:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.popehat.com/2012/09/27/nakoula-arrested-update-on-innocence-of-muslims-filmmaker/